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Fake Jobs

Updated 08/09/2017
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  Fake Jobs are a problem as they come for many reasons,
  from many industries, from many areas of the country
  but the bottom line is still the same ... the jobs are fake.

  Networking is one of the QUICKEST way to avoid these
  jobs as you are talking person to person minimizing your


  Q.  So what does a fake job look like?
  A.  Like a real job posting in many cases.
       Sometimes the poor quality in vague statements are a warning sign.
       Big or small companies may do it, some may use their name to scam you.

  Q.  How does one determine Fake from Real?
  A.  By design it is not made easy. Find people inside the company you know
       or have connections with. Ask about the positions. Sometimes you will
       find someone who will tell you what the real deal is. Others will provide
       the "official company" line while others will just not offer any information.

       Sometimes you just have to make a decision and submit hoping there is
       something that could materialize for you and it is not another scam.

  Q.  Is there any other ways to determine Fake from Real?
  A.  Depending on the number of people, this may involve a significant amount
       of office space somewhere. Try to get an idea of the number of people
       being looked for and talk to commercial real estate agents about what
       they know of being available in the market and where. If there is no space
       that suggests this opportunity could be a year out or that there is not any

  Q.  If this is a company no one seems to know how can I check them out?
  A.  There are a number of potential paths to achieve this goal:
         1.  Look them up on the Internet.
              Any company of any size will have a strong attractive presence
              on the Internet with details, phone numbers, services listed, etc. 

         2.  Cross validate their Phone Numbers
              Do an Internet check on the phone number to see if it is IN FACT
              registered to that company. This can be faked but it takes more time
              and money which leaves "fingerprints" on who the players might be.

         3.  Call the local Better Business Bureau
              Do a Google search to find this. Confirm their phone number, address
              and time in business. Not all 
businesses are BBB Members but most
              are for a variety of reasons. If there are unresponded to complaints,
              rethink making an application.

         4.  Very few business are exempt from a Tax License. Call the Tax Office
              in the City they are listed as being in and see if they actually have a
              Tax License and when it was issued. 

         5.  Do an Internet Satellite Map inquiry to see what their building looks
              like. Does it look like a legitimate business office or an abandoned
              vehicle painting building in a run down part of the city?

  Q.  Is there any fool proof way to determine Fake or Real?
  A.  Yes, but most of them are punishable by jail time at a minimum.

  Q.  Why do people do this?
  A.  Perhaps the most frequently seen of these "Fake Jobs" is described below:

          You are a large company with little or no presence in a city, yet
          you aggressively want to win a contract requiring a significant number
          of experienced people that you do not currently have available.  You
          will be competing against local companies that MAY already have the
          people available AND this is a typical "low quote wins" bidding game.

          You go out and advertise for the positions required for this contract
          and examine the quality of resumes received. You then hold a number
          of interviews to assess true skills and ... how much will they work for.
          This provides you a realistic cost basis to construct you bid plus you
          have these "victims" who believe there is a job when there is nothing
          at that time.  Is this immoral or unethical?  Very likely.  Is it illegal,
          that is for the attorneys and State to decide.

          Another potential is to obtain personal information on people whether
          it will be used for a "real" job later or for Identity Theft.

  Q.  Why does government not make this practice illegal?
  A.  Two reasons are often shared:
         1.  Government always look for the low price, sometimes without
              regard to quality.
Throw enough bodies at something and something
              will get done. Get enough good bodies and work can be done in a
              correct manner in sufficient time. This is why such contracts are
              often Time and Materials (the customer is billed for the number and
              skill level of the people times the hours worked. Because of this
              approach a "flat cost" contact is nearly non-existent except for very
              specific projects.

        2.   Government benefits potentially from this practice in two ways:
              a) a larger and professionally conducted search and screening is
                  done at no "extra cost" to government to find the right people.
                  Government does not do things this way.

              b) People are going to be added to the payroll which means more
                  items will be purchased (increased sales tax revenues and store
                  revenues), parking, gasoline, possibly lodging, etc., etc. now come
                  into the revenue stream of which Government will benefit from.
                  Good, bad or indifferent, Government will come out ahead so
                  if no one is threatening a campaign, why rock the boat?

         3.  Government funding may not be available for this type of activity.
              This activity can be expensive to locate the players and apprehend
              them and difficult sometimes to prosecute. Funding for government
              unfortunately doesn't cover all needs or priorities.

  Q.  Is this something only government does?
  A.  They do not have an exclusive on this. Remember, often this is done to
        obtain a government contact by a private company or group of
        companies. This tactic could be used anytime a company wants to bid on
        and be prepared to fulfill the terms of a contact won but lack the people
        in that area to do the work. Contracts like these generally require the
        people to work "onsite" at the designated workplace. 

        You could easily see this as one company seeking a large contract with
        another large or larger company. It is all the same. 

  Q.  Are some interview sessions totally illegitimate?
  A.  Absolutely. When you are unemployed and have insight into a company
         and relevant skills, you are a potential target.

       This could any number of scams including:
         - seeking confidential information on their technology or processes
         - any weakness in their processes another vendor could exploit for a sale
         - "Bad Guys" looking for a way to leverage gaps or weaknesses in the company
         - a competitor seeking inside information for a potential acquisition
         - any number of other possible cases you do NOT want to be part of

   10 Signs You're Interviewing For A Fake Job Opportunity
        |  Forbes/Leadership, Liz Ryan                                                                                                                                             08/08/2017
   I feel your pain but at the same time I am thrilled for you — because you are inoculated
   now. That snake will never bite you again!  
Now you know that as a job applicant, you have
   to stay on your toes. 
You have to stay vigilant, and pick a logical point in the process to
   say "So, what are the remaining steps in the hiring process?" 
You can't keep giving them
   more and more free consulting advice. If you do, you will train them to keep asking for
   free advice forever — without extending a job offer!
Here are 10 signs there is no job opportunity, and any interviews you participate in are
   simply transfers of knowledge from your brain to their brains (unpaid).